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Orangeleaf's avatar

Do you have thoughts on the concept of natural affections?

κρῠπτός's avatar

No. I can kind of guess what it is about. I think I have heard the term, but am not familiar with it. Perhaps you can flesh it out more.

Orangeleaf's avatar

God has, as a part of his good creation, placed within all humans a love for their natural family, tribe and nation.

κρῠπτός's avatar

True, but our response to the saving work of God forces a choice upon us: God or family? Hopefully we don’t have to choose, but if we do, it should be God. Many think they can have both. But accepting salvation in Jesus often breaks relationships with former friends and family. There is often a price to pay for being a Christian, and one such price is that it creates a dividing line between us and our neighbours. Once you accept Christ, you are no longer an American the way that others around you are. It changes the relationship.

Matthew 10 …

21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

Orangeleaf's avatar

True, we go and die with Christ.

Do you believe the European nations were blessed by God? Do you think mass immigration could be a curse for our apostasy and the abominations we tolerate?

κρῠπτός's avatar

It’s a possibility.

JasonT's avatar

Important conversation.

When the children of Israel were entering the Promised Land, God told them to completely wipe out the inhabitants. Why? Boil it done and the cultures were incompatible. One would corrupt the other if allowed to mingle; and it was not going to be the good culture dominating the bad culture. You cannot have open borders and maintain a national culture, ever.

Immigration worked in the past because we are a large country and immigrants dispersed among the population, and assimilated. More importantly, the immigrants were of a similar Christian culture and assimilated easily, with only language as the primary barrier. Later came Hispanic immigrants with a very non European culture and language. However, they were Christian background with a shared understanding of ethics, religion and government, generally. Assimilation happened quickly where they weren't closely congregated.

The latest wave of immigrants are culturally incompatible, particularly Islam. More than that, they have no interest in assimilation and expect to be accommodated. Additionally, Islam is a religion of conquest and has every intention of subjugating the nations it invades; and invade is the correct term.

Open borders in this era is a death sentence on the host.