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Laurentian's avatar

When speaking of mimesis and it's cause is imitation. The opinions of others is formulated on the opinions of others. We learn through imitation. Mimesis I personallt associate more with a crisis where our desire is imitated. If I could speak in Girards terms, it would be that Propoghanda when applied creates mimesis. I have a "fact" you now desire to have this "fact" and more which becomes a display of status according to Veblen. You will easily be able to find these ideas being applied in the following excercise. Talk to a boomer for 10mins, if you can stand it, 7 of those minutes are Propoghanda you as listener are to reflect that propoghanda or be castigated as a Tomfool or time wasting polysoot, who associates with loose women and nehrdowells.

κρῠπτός's avatar

Yes, exactly. You are being kind with seven minutes. More likely the whole 10 is propaganda. His thoughts are not his own.

Laurentian's avatar

Every Sunday...

MH's avatar

Recently, in exasperation, I said to a late wave silent / early boomer, "I don't want to argue with you! You know what would be easier? I'll just stand in front of the TV and argue with IT. You know - cut out the middleman".

κρῠπτός's avatar

Yeah. How did that work out for you?

MH's avatar

Actually not too badly. I swear it made him stop and consider. We said no more about it and we picked up with something else.

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Great tragic irony for Christians when we follow the news on events happening half a world a way but know nothing about the struggles of a family down the street. "None of my business."

MH's avatar

Wow, Kruptos, this piece totally blows it wide open for me!

I was too caught up in a linear progression of a line to properly order the thing. I had it as pre-propaganda first, propaganda follows, like pickets in a fence - one after another, after another. What you did with your ocean analogy is to shift the geometry. Ah. The currents are beneath, the waves are on top.

That shift in ordering made everything you built after hold together for me.

Extraordinary exposure of what is. Absolutely eye opening!

κρῠπτός's avatar

The image is Ellul's, and it is a good one. Thanks! I am glad you are enjoying the series.

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κρῠπτός's avatar

Good observation and spot on.