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A rich fund of linx; many thanx

EDIT: excellent summary of Ellul's works; is it on your stack?

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OK one more from me (provoked by your first discussion with JB) and enough

I don't know whether you agree, but arguments over 'genealogy of woke' (I hate not merely the thing but also the word itself) that were HOTHOTHOT a month or so ago seem to me to miss the point. I say this not because I think inquiry should be suppressed, though I do believe that the wholesale rejektors of the J*wish influence hypothesis are obviously wrong in degree and wish they could at least appear to pander a bit less both to J*ws and to anti-Christians. I say it because the debate under-emphasises the *purpose* of 'woke', which I am starting to think is to flatten out the kinks and enable the smooth functioning of the managerial apparatus.

This might seem an absurd thing to believe. Overpromotion and incorporation at the managerial level of incompetents of all kinds leads to planes falling out of the sky and so on. But those things, in the mind of the managerial blob, are second-order effects which can be further managed (perhaps Ellul would agree with this idk). What matters to the managers is smooth first-order functioning of the system, and to accomplish it exceptionally talented--and, crucially, exceptionally innovative, therefore often disruptive--individuals must be excluded, at least from (approximately) middle management and lower. This is (almost verging on) enough to explain to me why white men are the target of 'woke'.

So maybe 'woke' is not in origin a question of laicist trends in Christianity or J*wish or POC hatred of Europeans but fundamentally and originally a device of managerialism. Despite whatever patterns one might be able to identify in various texts or history itself, 'woke' as we experience it today can't in seriousness be satisfactorily traced to the Talmud, Calvin's Geneva, the Frankfurt School, Vatican II (and still less Soviet Russia) or whatever.

Anyway I'm thinking aloud, as it were. I could well be wrong in whole or in part.

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