Propaganda does not work in a vacuum. It must have a foundation upon which to build. So it uses and reinforces the myths and stories of your own culture against you, to control your actions.
Thank you once again for another fascinating installment in your series on propaganda.
Unless there is something I have misinterpreted, I come away from reading this with the understanding that EVERYTHING is propaganda from the progressive left to the MAGA right (where I locate myself) to Christian revivalists and even every notion I have ever had about what it means to be an American (the founding myths).
It left me with the distinct sensation of floating in the deepest depths of the blackest void of outer space.
I reviewed it again and found that there might be an exception in the direction of propagandist travel coming from the corner from which I orient myself. MAGA is anti-globalist. Jordan Peterson stresses virtue over happiness. Tucker Carlson evokes the value of tradition as well as the local over the national.
Are there carve outs for some ambitions of the MAGA movement that you would not consider propaganda such as the diminishment of the administrative state and the resistance of war abroad?
Or, to fully embrace what you are saying, must I continue my untethered drift into nothingness? After all, propaganda doesn't work in a vacuum.
Dave the Distributist, in out recent conversation, said that until you real Ellul, you have not black pilled nearly enough. The thing about the MAGA movement is that it is not, strictly speaking either "conservative" or "right wing." Technically, it is a populist movement that is anti-regime. But, for the most part, it is, on the whole, a liberal critique of the progressivism of the regime. This is one of the reasons that MAGA propaganda works. The argument that Donald Trump, and with him Elon Musk, are making is that we can right the ship and get western progress restarted for the benefit of the average American. This is why Trump's anti-regime propaganda works. He is tapping into core American/western myths and presuppositions.
You made an excellent observation. It is why I have also argued in the past that there really is no truly conservative politics in the US.
Thank you so much for the generosity of your time to have sent me a reply. I remember Dave the Distributist's comment. Black pilling indeed!
I can accept that MAGA is not strictly speaking conservative or right wing. I am unable to define either in any case. That it is a populous, anti-regime movement jibes with my understanding.
Your response helps me hang in there. Much food for thought. Thank you, Kruptos.
Thank you once again for another fascinating installment in your series on propaganda.
Unless there is something I have misinterpreted, I come away from reading this with the understanding that EVERYTHING is propaganda from the progressive left to the MAGA right (where I locate myself) to Christian revivalists and even every notion I have ever had about what it means to be an American (the founding myths).
It left me with the distinct sensation of floating in the deepest depths of the blackest void of outer space.
I reviewed it again and found that there might be an exception in the direction of propagandist travel coming from the corner from which I orient myself. MAGA is anti-globalist. Jordan Peterson stresses virtue over happiness. Tucker Carlson evokes the value of tradition as well as the local over the national.
Are there carve outs for some ambitions of the MAGA movement that you would not consider propaganda such as the diminishment of the administrative state and the resistance of war abroad?
Or, to fully embrace what you are saying, must I continue my untethered drift into nothingness? After all, propaganda doesn't work in a vacuum.
Dave the Distributist, in out recent conversation, said that until you real Ellul, you have not black pilled nearly enough. The thing about the MAGA movement is that it is not, strictly speaking either "conservative" or "right wing." Technically, it is a populist movement that is anti-regime. But, for the most part, it is, on the whole, a liberal critique of the progressivism of the regime. This is one of the reasons that MAGA propaganda works. The argument that Donald Trump, and with him Elon Musk, are making is that we can right the ship and get western progress restarted for the benefit of the average American. This is why Trump's anti-regime propaganda works. He is tapping into core American/western myths and presuppositions.
You made an excellent observation. It is why I have also argued in the past that there really is no truly conservative politics in the US.
Thank you so much for the generosity of your time to have sent me a reply. I remember Dave the Distributist's comment. Black pilling indeed!
I can accept that MAGA is not strictly speaking conservative or right wing. I am unable to define either in any case. That it is a populous, anti-regime movement jibes with my understanding.
Your response helps me hang in there. Much food for thought. Thank you, Kruptos.
You’re welcome! And I enjoy engaging with people like you with good questions and comments. It really makes all the time spent worth it.