Also a comment on adgitprop - far and away most of those actions in Canada and the United States are being carried by the well heeled liberal, not the lower classes. Who were the white people at the BLM riots? Let's not forget, also, how upper middle class liberal communities all across both countries had parade like gatherings in 2020 in support of BLM. And Let's never forget the spectacle of the very flower of America's elite youth chanting the slogans of adversial Iran.
They too can be activated by agitprop. Two things. They have grown up in a world of integration propaganda and have been primed for this activation. Many will do activism and then go on to be respectable citizens later in life, fully integrated into the life of the managers. They may protest, but they don't generally riot. For many of the inner city blacks, for example, who took part in the BLM riots, they don't really need the integration propaganda. They are just given a steady, regular dose of agitprop to keep them always angry, always ready, always on a low boil. If you really look at the phenomenon you can see what Ellul is talking about play out in the different classes.
It is with trepidation that I write this to you, good sir, Kruptos.
It feels humiliating for me to even speak in this space at all, considering what you said that has so disturbed me.
It felt like total rejection.
I think when you said this thing, good sir, that you didn't notice how devastating it could be to be on the receiving end of a charge of categorical limitation on human capacity.
I've had to contend with feelings of worthlessness since I heard you say this thing.
It happened at the part where you were talking about what Ellul said about adgitprop. Kruptos, you then equated the lower classes with low IQ.
I am a member of the lower classes.
Does that make me an NPC?
Please, please don't be distainful like the old PMC!
Please don't make me ask myself-
New boss, same as the old boss?
You here in this sphere, are better than that!
I'd rather you call me ignorant. Ignorance can be remedied.
But you if you take away my any hope of self-betterment, than you take away a piece of my humanity,
I am a servant, Worse yet, I am a rent-a-servant. I started cleaning houses during the pandemic.
I was fine with doing the work, but the customers aye ye ye ye ye.
Since then, I learned what I pratice everyday to enrich and fulfill my life. I am an obedient conscientious discreet respectful servant. My clients are happy,
Kruptos, I am not put off with your talk of hierarchy and patriarchy.
Quite the contrary! I've lived it in real life. I got to see it for myself on planet China. I witnessed how these attributes of patriarchy and hierarchy create the high functionality of a system aligned on those axis.
In China these patriarchal, hierarchical customs lie at the heart of an ancient civilization.The people value order and they value it for good reason.
Patriarchy and hierarchy are the old, well worn grooves that have survived the rise and fall of dynasties.
I get it. Its jarring and off-putting. This is what the technological society does to us all. To think about propaganda and how it works you have to think of people as a "mass," as averages, not at real persons. So, in spite of all your uniqueness and the individuality of your story, that has to be stripped away and you need to be made into the average of your class. These averages are powerful because there is truth to the reality that the lower classes are generally of lower intelligence than the upper classes. And so they must be dealt with propagandistically as a "class" as a "mass." This is why the technological society is a kind of violence against the person, and with it propaganda. Talking about the phenomenon really makes the violence of it sink in and you have felt it. It feels depersonalizing and even somewhat humiliating. But this is propaganda. Every time you see advertisements on TV. The news. Movies. Its all of a piece. The full nature of it is hitting you.
I am sorry too, that the world is this way, that propaganda both hides this from us and exploits it at the same time, and that this moment makes it necessary to shatter these illusions.
Also a comment on adgitprop - far and away most of those actions in Canada and the United States are being carried by the well heeled liberal, not the lower classes. Who were the white people at the BLM riots? Let's not forget, also, how upper middle class liberal communities all across both countries had parade like gatherings in 2020 in support of BLM. And Let's never forget the spectacle of the very flower of America's elite youth chanting the slogans of adversial Iran.
They too can be activated by agitprop. Two things. They have grown up in a world of integration propaganda and have been primed for this activation. Many will do activism and then go on to be respectable citizens later in life, fully integrated into the life of the managers. They may protest, but they don't generally riot. For many of the inner city blacks, for example, who took part in the BLM riots, they don't really need the integration propaganda. They are just given a steady, regular dose of agitprop to keep them always angry, always ready, always on a low boil. If you really look at the phenomenon you can see what Ellul is talking about play out in the different classes.
It is with trepidation that I write this to you, good sir, Kruptos.
It feels humiliating for me to even speak in this space at all, considering what you said that has so disturbed me.
It felt like total rejection.
I think when you said this thing, good sir, that you didn't notice how devastating it could be to be on the receiving end of a charge of categorical limitation on human capacity.
I've had to contend with feelings of worthlessness since I heard you say this thing.
It happened at the part where you were talking about what Ellul said about adgitprop. Kruptos, you then equated the lower classes with low IQ.
I am a member of the lower classes.
Does that make me an NPC?
Please, please don't be distainful like the old PMC!
Please don't make me ask myself-
New boss, same as the old boss?
You here in this sphere, are better than that!
I'd rather you call me ignorant. Ignorance can be remedied.
But you if you take away my any hope of self-betterment, than you take away a piece of my humanity,
I am a servant, Worse yet, I am a rent-a-servant. I started cleaning houses during the pandemic.
I was fine with doing the work, but the customers aye ye ye ye ye.
Since then, I learned what I pratice everyday to enrich and fulfill my life. I am an obedient conscientious discreet respectful servant. My clients are happy,
Kruptos, I am not put off with your talk of hierarchy and patriarchy.
Quite the contrary! I've lived it in real life. I got to see it for myself on planet China. I witnessed how these attributes of patriarchy and hierarchy create the high functionality of a system aligned on those axis.
In China these patriarchal, hierarchical customs lie at the heart of an ancient civilization.The people value order and they value it for good reason.
Patriarchy and hierarchy are the old, well worn grooves that have survived the rise and fall of dynasties.
I hope I haven't offended you.
I get it. Its jarring and off-putting. This is what the technological society does to us all. To think about propaganda and how it works you have to think of people as a "mass," as averages, not at real persons. So, in spite of all your uniqueness and the individuality of your story, that has to be stripped away and you need to be made into the average of your class. These averages are powerful because there is truth to the reality that the lower classes are generally of lower intelligence than the upper classes. And so they must be dealt with propagandistically as a "class" as a "mass." This is why the technological society is a kind of violence against the person, and with it propaganda. Talking about the phenomenon really makes the violence of it sink in and you have felt it. It feels depersonalizing and even somewhat humiliating. But this is propaganda. Every time you see advertisements on TV. The news. Movies. Its all of a piece. The full nature of it is hitting you.
In the matter of the evaluation of the intelligence of the lower classes, I concede that you have more accurately described reality.
I had not seen this before you showed it to me.
That is a black pill for me.
It is the strong medicine that I needed.
I'm sorry to you that you had to be the one to feed it to me, but I am truly grateful that you did.
I am sorry too, that the world is this way, that propaganda both hides this from us and exploits it at the same time, and that this moment makes it necessary to shatter these illusions.